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sfmacla
Joined: 15 Mar 2008 Posts: 5 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:30 pm Post subject: SP 1955 Daylight question |
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Has anyone run this consist on 3DTS Tehachapi II route. I can't seem to get the consist's speed higher than 30 MPH on the flatter track coming out of Bakersfield and it seems to run out of speed on the grade. Any ideas on what is happening? |
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GaryG Guest
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:27 am Post subject: |
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Hi
I'm assuming the BLW_Daylight_E9 consist with an E9A-E7B-E9A set of power.
Yes, there are serious problems, very slippery and lots of wheelslip.
Try the following changes in all three E7 .eng files...
1 - Change the Adheasion line to "Adheasion ( 0.28 0.50 2.0 0 )"
2 - The E7 only has four powered axles so change the first NumWheels from 6 to 4 - "NumWheels ( 4 )"
3 - About 80% ("A") or 50% ("B") through the file find another NumWheels and change it to 4 - "NumWheels ( 4 )". This was the setting that made the biggest difference.
I tried with these settings near Bealville and was able to reach and maintain track speed at about 75% throttle. It would still slip if I push it but I think that's probably reasonable close with 6,000 horses pulling that train.
Waiting for comments...
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sfmacla
Joined: 15 Mar 2008 Posts: 5 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:16 am Post subject: Thanks |
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Gary;
Outstanding! Works like a dream. Many, many thanks from a big Daylight fan. Was worried I would not be able to enjoy my favorite train. By the way, I only found 1 E7 .eng file.
Now I don't suppose you have a solution for the same problem with the PA2 units.
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rfranzosa Site Admin
Joined: 21 Sep 2007 Posts: 1210 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:03 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Gary.
I actually changed one of my PRR activities because 3 E7 couldn't handle a 13 car train on the NEC.
Rick _________________ Rick Franzosa - ZosaTrains
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GaryG Guest
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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Good Morning
I'm glad you like the fix. I just hope it's not overpowered. I think it's should still be about right because I didn't touch the actual power settings. It certainly does accelerate better now but still will slip if you jump to Run5 too fast without sand.
I would think they are good candidates for the L&N sound set as well. Additionally, the modified throttle settings would probably give much more realistic startup acceleration with Run1 set at 6%.
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Gaetan Site Admin

Joined: 21 Sep 2007 Posts: 1107 Location: Mont-Joli QC
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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have you check Gary the Patch update for the Daylight if the friction value is bad, maybe i can reupload new patch ?
Gaetan _________________ Gaetan
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sfmacla
Joined: 15 Mar 2008 Posts: 5 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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Gaetan;
Should I install the update/patch from 09/22/07 even if I bought my 1955 Daylight pack within the past two weeks?
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Gaetan Site Admin

Joined: 21 Sep 2007 Posts: 1107 Location: Mont-Joli QC
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:07 am Post subject: |
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Yes but check your friction value after install it
Gaetan _________________ Gaetan
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GaryG Guest
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
Check both Adheasion and NumWheels, the second NumWheels probably had more to do with the fix than the rest of the changes.
Also, these settings are for the six axle "E" units only. These setttings on a four axle "F" unit will give a unit that won't slip even at Run8 and 0MPH.
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sfmacla
Joined: 15 Mar 2008 Posts: 5 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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Gaetan;
I tried to unzip the 1955 Daylight update and it asked for a password. I tried both of the ones I use here (one to access 'members' and the other to access the 'forum') but neither would work. Is there a special password needed?
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Gaetan Site Admin

Joined: 21 Sep 2007 Posts: 1107 Location: Mont-Joli QC
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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The same password of your GN pack
If you forget it send me an PM here
Gaetan _________________ Gaetan
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sfmacla
Joined: 15 Mar 2008 Posts: 5 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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Gaetan;
Installed the 1955 SP update file. Still had to make Gary's suggested changes to the E7 .eng file to get things to work right. The PA2 units still will not get up to speed on the flatter grade tracks. Is there adjustments that need to made to the PA2 or PB2 .eng files to fix this problem.
By the way, I meant to send my congratulations to you for the great work that was done on creating my favorite passenger train. Other so-called Daylight consists usually are not as extensive as the one you created. Curious question - does use your consist work with GS4 4-8-4 steam locomotives available from download sites?
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Gaetan Site Admin

Joined: 21 Sep 2007 Posts: 1107 Location: Mont-Joli QC
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:59 am Post subject: |
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I don't know Mac , try it
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GaryG Guest
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
The consist should be fine with any locomotive - they are "just" MSTS wag files. They would look great behind a Daylight painted GS4.
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