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giuliano



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:42 pm    Post subject: Some question Reply with quote

Hello to all.
Some question.
Is someone able to say me if msts works well under Windows seven? I've installed XP on my PC and I'm thinking to change to Seven, but I've some doubts about msts can work regularly.
Did Frisco work on NP route ( for example between Logan and Deer Lodge on MRD_East route for msts )?
Was it possible to see NP freight cars in composition of freight trains along the Shasta route between Portland and Oakland?
Was it possible to see SP&S diesel locos working on Shasta route or along NP route? And along GN route like the msts GH_line?
I found some photos showing Amtrak Coast Starlight during the early '70s. It was consisting of "one level" amtrak coachs.
Does someone know ( or is able to say me ) composition of that train in the early '70s?
Thanks to all.
Giuliano
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 2:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Some question Reply with quote

giuliano wrote:
Hello to all.

Some question.


Ciao Guiliano

I will answer what I can

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Was it possible to see NP freight cars in composition of freight trains along the Shasta route between Portland and Oakland?



American railroads interchange freight cars frequently, so yes...

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Was it possible to see SP&S diesel locos working on Shasta route or along NP route? And along GN route like the msts GH_line?



This was very common on the GN and NP routes in the early days of the Burlington Northern, before CB&Q, NP, GN and SP&S locomotives were repainted. I don't know about the Shasta Route.

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I found some photos showing Amtrak Coast Starlight during the early '70s. It was consisting of "one level" amtrak coachs.
Does someone know ( or is able to say me ) composition of that train in the early '70s?


from the 1974 consist book. The book lists the type of car, not the actual car number:

Baggage 1020 series ex ASTF 3500
Baggage Dorm 1500 series
Six (6) Coaches 4470 series ex ATSF 2800
Lounge 3800 series ex-SAL 6500 30 C-B-L-Obs
Diner 8030 series ex-ATSF 36-Diner 1477
10-5 Sleeper 2500 series ex ATSF 'Blue Grass' 208
8-2 Sleeper 2210 series ex ATSF 11Bdr Indian Canoe

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Thanks to all.
Giuliano


You're welcome,

Ciao,

Rick

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 5:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Some question Reply with quote

giuliano wrote:
Hello to all.
...
Is someone able to say me if msts works well under Windows seven?
...
Giuliano


I am running with no problems with 7 Ultimate BUT there can be problems!

There are some threads and/or links in the Train-Sim forums about how to successfully install and use MSTS in W7.

I set up my W7 in full Administrator mode with almost all the W7 extra security bypassed. Not recommended unless you have a lot of experience.

From what I have read, if installed properly using the procedures as described i forums, MSTS will run in a 'normal' W7 user installation.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Rick and thanks GaryG for your kind answers..
About W7, I'll read the Train-Sim forums so as you suggested me, GaryG.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some additional information -

I have been running MSTS under Windows 7 without problems.

The Frisco would very unlikely have been seen on any railroad that far North prior to the BN / Frisco merger.

Northern Pacific freight cars would have been seen regularly on the SP route between Oakland and Portland. Portland is where the SP and the NP connected and that is where empties and loads would have been exchanged.

The SP&S locomotives would probably never have been seen on the NP and GN in Montana. They were seen regularly on the "Inside Gateway" connection with the Western Pacific. The SP would have never run an SP&S unit on the Shasta.

With all of that said, after the BN merger, SP&S equipment could very well have been seen on the GN and NP in Montana, but with BN road numbers. Even after the BN merger, the majority of SP&S equipment stayed pretty close to Vancouver, Washington with few exceptions. Those exceptions would have been the passenger F units and single E unit plus the handful of GP9's.

I hope that helps.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Greg and thanks for your complete information.
But I didn't understand a thing. You saw the SP&S locomotives were seen regularly on the "Inside Gateway" connection with the Western Pacific.
It is certainly due to my no perfect knowledge of North American railroad geography but I don't konw about "Inside Gateway" connection with the Western Pacific. I thought WP worked along pacific rail route in California between San Francisco and Los Angeles and that its locomotives could go into service across Nevada and Utah to Denver in Colorado ( it was and is again the route for California Zephir ). But how was a connection between WP and SP&S possible if SP&S could no work between Portland and Oakland? Was there ( or is there again ) another route beetween State of Washington and California and/or Nevada that was crossed by WP? Could by some way WP reach State of Washington?
I would not want to seem annoying but I'ld wish ask some other information always about some rail companies. Is it right to think Norfolk and Southern worked and work again on the routes at West USA besides the routes to North East?
Thanks to all very much for the several informations.
All of you are very kind. Thanks friends.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "Inside Gateway" is another rail line that runs through Eastern Oregon down through Northern California. The line is owned by the SP&S and Great Northern. The SP&S owns the line from Wishram, Washington, South to Bend, Oregon. The Great Northern owned the line from Bend to Chemult, Oregon where it connected with the SP Shasta route. Joint trackage was used to Kalamath Falls, Oregon where the Great Northern had a small yard and engine facility separate from the Southern Pacific. From Kalamath Falls, Oregon the Great Northern had tracks that ran to Bieber, California where it connected with the northern end of the Western Pacific.

The Great Northern originated the train in Seattle, Washington and ran South to Vancouver, Washington and the SP&S. The train would pick up cars and an SP&S locomotive in the lead of the Great Northern power, generally 4 GN GP9's and GP7's. The train would run East from Vancouver to Wishran where it would turn South and cross the Columbia River. The train generally continued this way to Kalamath Falls. I am not sure the SP&S power ran through to Bieber. All I ever saw on the lead were SP&S FA's. All of this was prior to the BN merger.

The southern end of the Western Pacific was Oakland, California. I believe they connected with the Santa Fe at Richmond, California but never ran to Los Angeles.

To answer you other question. Today Norfolk and Southern units can be seen almost any where. I see them regularly on the BNSF.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello.
Always about Windows7.
I read the topics on Train-Sim forum and as I understand it I need to install TS in Program Files(X86) directory, because this is the right directory in W7 ( this latest is a 64bit OS ) for programs that work under a 32bit operating system as TS does. Is it right?
Nevertheless MSTSBin patch would not work under a 64bit system.
But about TS-PRR?
If I can not install TS-PRR in the same directory where I installed TS but, for example, directly in C (under 64bit OS), how can I install the Bin patch in TS-PRR?
I'm about to install MSTS on a notebook with MSTS W7 operating system and I'd be a little dubious .
Thanks.
Giuliano
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:00 am    Post subject: Frisco on A&O Sub? Reply with quote

Just a question about the Frisco operations. The A&O Sub was a part of the Frisco RR?


merry christmas

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 2:04 pm    Post subject: Trains where connected Detroit? Reply with quote

Hi,

Does anyone know which old passenger trains was connected the Michigan Central Station in Detroit?
I didnt found anything by google:(

Michael
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 5:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Trains where connected Detroit? Reply with quote

mt78tt wrote:
Hi,

Does anyone know which old passenger trains was connected the Michigan Central Station in Detroit?
I didnt found anything by google:(

Michael


Hello Michael,

The Michigan Central was part of the New York Central System. There is a comprehensive website for the NYC that should have the information you are looking for. Although the site is called 'Canada Southern' it is THE place to go for NYC information:

http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/home.htm

Rick

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