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Rob
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Looks very promising!!!
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Looks very nice, Rick! I can't wait to see this one progress.
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 Just read a new posting over at Train Sim Forum by Rick.....this looks to becoming a very colorful set of vintage Conrail power...liking what I see and I'm from the Midwest. Nice work Rick.  Skip |
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Looking good as usual!
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| Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 5:31 pm Post subject: EMD Locos in First Conrail Set |
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OK. The locomotives are DONE, except for testing. Once I get a handle on the size of this puppy, I will add cabeese and maybe freight cars.
Here's the list (TWENTY-SEVEN):
Included in the set:
EMD E8A:
CR 4014 ex EL 825
CR 4022 ex EL 833
CR 4063 ex PC 4063
CR 4256 ex PC 4256
CR 4325 ex PC 4325
EMD F7A:
CR 1648 ex PC 1648
CR 1693 ex PC 1693
CR 1726 ex PC 1726
CR 1858 ex PC 1858
EMD F7B:
CR 3867 ex PC 3460
CR 3869 ex PC 3466
EMD FP7A:
CR 4365 ex PC 4365
CR 4369 ex PC 4369
EMD GP7
CR 5603 ex PC 5603
CR 5638 ex PC 5638
CR 5679 ex CNJ 1532
CR 5680 ex CNJ 1522
CR 5835 ex RDG 633
CR 5987 ex EL 1272
EMD GP9
CR 7284 ex PC 7284/NH 12xx
CR 7292 ex PC 7292/NH 12xx
CR 7426 ex PC 7426
CR 7476 ex LV 300
CR 7481 ex EL 1263
EMD GP9B
CR 3827 ex PC 3827
EMD SD9
CR 6916 ex PC 6916
CR 6919 ex PC 6919
CR 6922 ex PC 6922
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| Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 10:19 pm Post subject: . |
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| Looking forward to this. And freight cars would be great. You guys produce the best MSTS locomotives available but I really enjoy your freight cars as well. The C&O and Pennsylvania freight cars are especially nice. |
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This sounds awesome, Rick! My credit card is pacing back and forth on my computer desk eagerly waiting.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 6:58 am Post subject: . |
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| Just curious: what did Conrail use the E8s for? Did it provide passenger service? I thought Amtrak had everything by the mid-70s. |
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True, while Amtrak was already up and running by then, Conrail still offered passenger service, namely on the North East Corridor, and some other commuter runs. (I think all the long-hauls were handed over to Amtrak.) All commuter operations had been transferred to Amtrak or private commuter companies by 1983.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: . |
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| cbblackard wrote: |
Just curious: what did Conrail use the E8s for?
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Ultimately they kept three for use on their executive train. They were painted Pullman Green with delux gold lettering (hint hint hint).
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| Did it provide passenger service? I thought Amtrak had everything by the mid-70s. |
When Conrail began operations in 1976, as part of the deal thay turned over the Northeast Corridor to Amtrak. So on Conrail 'day one' they had very little passenger service being operated on their own accounts. (One significant exception was the Cleveland - Youngstown commuter train on the former Erie, and Conrail filed a train-off petition almost immediately!) And yet on day one Conrail the biggest operator of passenger trains in the USA. How could that be?
By the time Conrail was formed the various states had already begun to cover the costs of providing commuter service. They were also rebuilding old equipment and buying new equipment. So on Conrail day one things didn't change that much. The equipment remained painted whatever the local operating agency wanted. Perhaps the old logos were removed, but there was no big repainting everything into Conrail.
Likewise on the Norhteast Corridor, Amtrak inherited their passenger train assets from the bankrupt Penn Central, but the logos and the paint went from being Penn Central (or PRR or NYC) to Amtrak.
The part where Conrail was involved was that the Engineer's and Conductors went from being employees of the various railroads to being employees of Conrail. You would see the Conrail logo on the paper stuff, for example on the commuter operations the tickets usually said Conrail.
But Conrail did not fit in well with the role of being the program agency for passenger train development, which is what many people expected them to be. (I know because I was there, but that goes beyond what we're discussing here.) So legislation was passed directing the commuter train operating agencies to begin running their own trains, that is with their own people doing the work, and not Conrail. This changeover took place in 1983. Also Amtrak took over being their own operator, eventually not just on the Northeast Corridor but everywhere they go.
So there really wasn't any such thing as "Conrail passenger service", and yet for a while they did it all!
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| Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 4:00 pm Post subject: . |
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| Thanks for the info. |
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