Southern Pacific

Gaetan · Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:04 am Post subject: Southern Pacific

The Southern Pacific Passenger Pack is ready for sales Guys

16 engines
21 cars + 4 bonuses cars

http://www.valleypass.com/Sales/Sales.htm

Gaetan
BLW

Pat · Joined: 21 Sep 2007 Posts: 11 Location: Upstate, NY

Looks great Gaetan!! Now I just need to decide between this and the Daylight pack Wink

Gaetan · Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:03 am Post subject:

Take the two Pat Very Happy

Gaetan

cr-stagg · Joined: 26 Sep 2007 Posts: 6

Have plenty of pictures of the actual SP Daylight cars. But don't remember any of this silver livery nor the bonus gray livery. During what time period and on what routes were they used?

Gaetan · Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:07 am Post subject:

Check the Cascade Lightweight debut on this website for Grey Charles

http://www.kls2.com/~karl/rr/consists/

About the exact period for the silver i don't know but
when the rust on the structures of the cars began to be a big problem the stainless steel fluting was removed and flat panels were installed. On many of the cars in your set they used stainless steel panels that were very shiny on the sides, but not on the doors or the skirts on the ends of the cars. Some had shiny stainless steel above and below the windows but the window band was soft steel painted mat grey

Gaetan

ac44kid · Joined: 01 Nov 2007 Posts: 2 Location: Sacramento, CA, USA

Hey, I'm green here, and wondering if BLW will make some SP Pullman-Standard Bi-Levels?

agentatascadero · Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 5 Location: Carmel Valley, CA

[quote="cr-stagg"]Have plenty of pictures of the actual SP Daylight cars. But don't remember any of this silver livery nor the bonus gray livery. During what time period and on what routes were they used/quote] The SP Daylight first ran in 1937. The "Sunset scheme" (silver, with red stripe), was first used when The Sunset Limited equipment was pruchased from Budd, in 1950. In about 1958, as the Daylight fleet was being rehabbed due to rust damage, the decision was made to standardize the passenger fleet in the Sunset scheme. The two tone grey was first used when the Lark was streamlined in 1940 or'41. Later, around 1950 or so, the heavyweight fleet was converted from Pullman Green to two tone grey. The Lark remained in grey until it, too, was converted to the Sunset scheme. UP Overland yellow may have lasted on some cars until AMTRAK day in 1971. Hope this helps, AA, born and raised in SP territory on the Coast Line.